Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

02/09/2006 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:19:57 PM Start
03:22:38 PM Professional Teaching Practices Commission
03:36:20 PM HB408
03:56:24 PM Overview: National Council on Alcoholism & Drug Dependence
04:51:03 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearings TELECONFERENCED
Professional Teaching Practices
Commission
+ Presentation by National Council on TELECONFERENCED
Alcoholism & Drug Dependence (NCADD)
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 408 DEFINITION OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 408(HES) Out of Committee
HB 408-DEFINITION OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:36:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 408, "An Act  relating to the definition of 'child                                                               
abuse and  neglect' for child protection  purposes; and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:36:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOANNE  GIBBENS,  Program  Administrator,  Office  of  Children's                                                               
Services (OCS), Department of Health  and Social Services (DHSS),                                                               
stated  departmental support  for the  proposed amendment  [later                                                               
labeled  and  adopted as  Amendment  2]  as it  addresses  issues                                                               
previously  discussed  in  committee   [February  7,  2006],  and                                                               
reflects  current reporting  practices  to OCS.   That  amendment                                                               
[Amendment 2] read [original punctuation provided]:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 8, following "thereby;":                                                                                      
          Insert ""child abuse or neglect" includes a                                                                       
     determination, at  delivery, by a health  care provider                                                                
     that  a child  has been  adversely affected  by, or  is                                                                
     withdrawing  from exposure  to, a  controlled substance                                                                
     or alcohol;"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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3:38:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON pointed out that  [Amendment 2] is the definition of                                                               
child  abuse  or neglect  with  the  inclusion of  "or  alcohol."                                                               
However, this change does not  effectively alter how these issues                                                               
are  currently   being  handled  by  OCS   or  statewide  medical                                                               
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  posed  a  scenario in  which  a  social                                                               
drinker who  is not  aware of her  pregnancy takes  measures upon                                                               
her awareness of being prenatal,  but subsequently births a child                                                               
with fetal  alcohol syndrome  disabilities (FASD).   He  asked if                                                               
the  parent(s)  would  then  be  faced  with  having  the  infant                                                               
reported  to OCS.    He  related that  he  has  received a  broad                                                               
spectrum  of   opinions  regarding  alcohol  affects   on  unborn                                                               
children  and expressed  his concern  for the  possibility of  an                                                               
unwitting situation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. GIBBENS explained that this  bill addresses situations when a                                                               
health care provider has a reason  for concern, and that a report                                                               
to OCS does not mean a child will be remanded by the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:41:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON reiterated  that this bill does  not change anything                                                               
in  current practice  in  the state,  but  simply provides  state                                                               
statute for what  is already occurring and to  conform to federal                                                               
language and requirements.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER pointed out  the possibilities that may be                                                               
looked  at  as  options  to  state remand:    no  action  may  be                                                               
required,   following  a   family  assessment;   supportive  home                                                               
services may  be employed;  spousal presence in  the home  may be                                                               
made  conditional;  or  whatever  may  be  deemed  necessary  and                                                               
available to assure the safety of the child.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO pointed  out that  on page  1, line  1, the                                                               
word "and" disagrees with the  remaining language of the bill and                                                               
should be changed to "or" to maintain consistency.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
STACIE  KRALY,   Chief  Assistant  Attorney   General,  Statewide                                                               
Section  Supervisor,  Human  Services  Section,  Civil  Division,                                                               
Department of Law (DOL), pointed out  that the title does need to                                                               
be amended to "or" to  remain consistent with AS 47.17.290(2) and                                                               
the remainder of the bill.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO moved  to adopt  Amendment 1,  deleting the                                                               
word "and"  from page  1, line  1, and  inserting the  word "or."                                                               
There being no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:45:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  offered  Amendment  2  [text  previously                                                               
provided]   and  explained   that   this  amendment   effectively                                                               
redefines the  abuse statute.   She pointed out that  child abuse                                                               
includes exposure, withdrawal, and  adverse effects of controlled                                                               
substances or  alcohol, but that the  fact that a child  has been                                                               
exposed  does not  mean harm  has occurred,  or that  a child  is                                                               
experiencing withdrawal symptoms.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:46:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON  reiterated his concern for  an unwitting                                                               
situation that results in, or a  suspicion of, an FASD infant and                                                               
the possible consequences.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER reminded  the  committee that  if OCS  is                                                               
called and a  report made, it does not mean  the child is removed                                                               
from  parental custody;  rather an  assessment would  be made  to                                                               
ascertain the welfare of the child.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON  maintained his concern for  the judicial                                                               
aspect of the bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:49:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  expressed concern  that  [by  the time  a                                                               
report is  made to  OCS] the  mother and  child may  have already                                                               
"fallen off  of a cliff."   She reminded the committee  as to the                                                               
need  to  address  programs   that  take  proactive  preventative                                                               
measures.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:50:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  asked if  statute is  in place  that will  ease the                                                               
concerns of the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.   GIBBENS  said   that  there   is  statute   addressing  the                                                               
appropriate protocol for  contacting OCS in a  situation in which                                                               
a  parent who  is abusing  a substance  that interferes  with the                                                               
proper care of his/her child(ren).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:51:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  said   he  agreed  with  Representative                                                               
Cissna that  there is no need  to focus on tougher  penalties but                                                               
rather proactive/preventative programs to curb recidivism.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:52:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON, upon determining there  was no objection, announced                                                               
that Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON moved  to report HB 408,  as amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying zero  fiscal note.   There being no  objection, CSHB
408(HES)  was  reported  from the  House  Health,  Education  and                                                               
Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:53:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  reiterated  her concern  with  regard  to                                                               
prevention.  She  highlighted the language she  gave to committee                                                               
members  regarding an  effective  state program.   She  indicated                                                               
that  legislation  based on  the  language  she provided  to  the                                                               
committee proposes the use of  public health nurses to do healthy                                                               
family   training,   assessments,   mentor  parents,   and   work                                                               
proactively for the child.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:56:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON commented that the  aforementioned is something that                                                               
one must  consider in terms  of how  the state can  address such.                                                               
She further  commented that are  some prevention monies  that she                                                               
hoped  would  stay  in  the  budget  in  order  to  achieve  such                                                               
[prevention activities].                                                                                                        

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